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	<title>Comments on: Resolving Shutdown Immediate Hang Situations</title>
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		<title>By: Tallarico</title>
		<link>http://askdba.org/weblog/2008/05/shutdown-immediate-hang-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7714</link>
		<dc:creator>Tallarico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for the post.  This saved the day for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for the post.  This saved the day for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Saurabh Sood</title>
		<link>http://askdba.org/weblog/2008/05/shutdown-immediate-hang-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>Saurabh Sood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sunny,

I doubt that it will be useful everytime, because the drop temporary tablespace command will hang also and may take hours.
I have seen this type of situation earlier where the temporary tablespace was dropped and we were left with hanging drop tablespace command.
Moreover if there are very large temporary segments, it can happen that they will get corrupted and SMON will never clean them up, they will simply consume disk space on the server. Then we have to use the dbms_space_admin.drop corrupt segments()
So, I think, it is better to set the event.

Cheers!!!
Saurabh Sood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sunny,</p>
<p>I doubt that it will be useful everytime, because the drop temporary tablespace command will hang also and may take hours.<br />
I have seen this type of situation earlier where the temporary tablespace was dropped and we were left with hanging drop tablespace command.<br />
Moreover if there are very large temporary segments, it can happen that they will get corrupted and SMON will never clean them up, they will simply consume disk space on the server. Then we have to use the dbms_space_admin.drop corrupt segments()<br />
So, I think, it is better to set the event.</p>
<p>Cheers!!!<br />
Saurabh Sood</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Sorry it was typo i meant shutdown immediate at end. 
Instead as we know that shutdown will cleanup the temp segments and if temp tablespace has allocated many(can be checked before shutdown. need to find magin number) that will take up time to cleanup and also do not want to do shutdown abort then create new temp--&gt; reset default temp ts(10g)--&gt;drop temp tabelspace(can be switched again at startup to orignal name since all the users has default temp ts and may be app is alos using temp ts name --&gt;shutdown immediate. (anyways before shutdown we will check and make sure no session are not connected).
Just a theory.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Sorry it was typo i meant shutdown immediate at end.<br />
Instead as we know that shutdown will cleanup the temp segments and if temp tablespace has allocated many(can be checked before shutdown. need to find magin number) that will take up time to cleanup and also do not want to do shutdown abort then create new temp&#8211;&gt; reset default temp ts(10g)&#8211;&gt;drop temp tabelspace(can be switched again at startup to orignal name since all the users has default temp ts and may be app is alos using temp ts name &#8211;&gt;shutdown immediate. (anyways before shutdown we will check and make sure no session are not connected).<br />
Just a theory.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Saurabh Sood</title>
		<link>http://askdba.org/weblog/2008/05/shutdown-immediate-hang-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1564</link>
		<dc:creator>Saurabh Sood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sunny,

If the shutdown immediate command is hanging, then once you have to a shutdown abort.
Then put the event in the init.ora file, startup the database and then issue a shutdown immediate command.
It will just force the SMON to skip temporary objects cleanup.
There is no need to issue shutdown abort second time.  
It is :
it shutdown abort–&gt;event in .ora –&gt;startup–&gt;shutdown immediate

Now with the event in place shutdown immediate command will succeed.

Cheers!!!
Saurabh Sood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sunny,</p>
<p>If the shutdown immediate command is hanging, then once you have to a shutdown abort.<br />
Then put the event in the init.ora file, startup the database and then issue a shutdown immediate command.<br />
It will just force the SMON to skip temporary objects cleanup.<br />
There is no need to issue shutdown abort second time.<br />
It is :<br />
it shutdown abort–>event in .ora –>startup–>shutdown immediate</p>
<p>Now with the event in place shutdown immediate command will succeed.</p>
<p>Cheers!!!<br />
Saurabh Sood</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://askdba.org/weblog/2008/05/shutdown-immediate-hang-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1559</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is menat by &quot;you can set the following event and bounce the database and reissue shutdown immediate to skip this cleanup:&quot;
Is it shutdown abort--&gt;event in .ora --&gt;startup--&gt;shutdown abort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is menat by &#8220;you can set the following event and bounce the database and reissue shutdown immediate to skip this cleanup:&#8221;<br />
Is it shutdown abort&#8211;&gt;event in .ora &#8211;&gt;startup&#8211;&gt;shutdown abort.</p>
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